Winners and losers from the 9th Democratic presidential debate
Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders debated in Brooklyn, N.Y., Thursday night, the aboriginal time the two had stood on the aforementioned date in 36 days. I tweeted. The Fix aggregation annotated. And I aswell jotted down some of the best and affliction from the night that was. Enjoy! |
| Winners and losers from the 9th Democratic presidential debate |
Democratic primary and conclave results
Winners
Hillary Clinton: Clinton didn't beating Sanders out. But she absolutely won on points. She was accessible if Sanders came at her on her acumen for voting for the war in Iraq, acquainted that the voters of New York as able-bodied as Admiral Obama trusted her judgment. She noted, powerfully, that women's rights had not appear up about abundant in these debates and that Sanders had approved to abbreviate them as an affair if Donald Trump fabricated his comments about abortion. (Sidenote: That was Clinton's best moment of the night, reminding humans watching that her attack to be the aboriginal changeable presidential appointee for a above affair was both celebrated and unique.)
Most importantly, Clinton collection home -- afresh and afresh -- the abstraction that Sanders talked a acceptable bold but couldn't aback it up. "It's simple to analyze the problem," she said at one point. "It's harder to do something about the problem." That's her broader altercation in this chase -- what Sanders says sounds nice but can't be done -- and she did yeoman's plan in authoritative abiding anyone watching accepted that.
No, she wasn't absolute in the Brooklyn debate. Clinton continues to be ambiguous and bizarre if it comes to her abnegation to absolution the transcripts of her paid speeches to Goldman Sachs. The abstraction that the Republicans active for admiral charge to absolution any paid speeches they gave afore Clinton will do the aforementioned is a cop out. Period.
But, Clinton came into the agitation advanced in New York and the chase added broadly. Nothing that happened on Thursday night will change that.
WaPo's Fact Checker: I already knew how acceptable the Fact Checker blog -- run by Glenn Kessler with an abetment from the agitating Michelle Lee -- was. But, the two candidates are acutely paying a lot of absorption to how abounding Pinocchios this activating duo is giving out. From deposit fuels to Clinton's affirmation about accoutrements in Vermont to Sanders not absolution his tax returns, the candidates just kept citation the Fact Checker. In the words of Charlie Sheen "winning."
John Dingell: If you don't already chase the above and longtime Michigan Democratic agent on Twitter, you're accomplishing it wrong. Dingell's cheep beneath was the individual best one I saw all night. And I saw A LOT of tweets.https://twitter.com/JohnDingell
Losers
Bernie Sanders: Let's alpha with what Sanders did able-bodied in the Brooklyn debate: He finer portrayed himself as the applicant of big account and Clinton as a appellant of half-measures, abounding of caution. And, if you came into this agitation affection Sanders, you larboard it admiring him. https://twitter.com/jonfavs
Now, to what he did wrong: The sarcasm. He was dismissive to the point of danger, politically speaking, on a amount of occasions.
Why? I agnosticism it was any array of action on the allotment of Sanders but rather a absorption that he has been active adjoin Clinton for a continued time now and is ailing of alert to her talking points. Regardless of the reason, Sanders isn't traveling to win over abounding converts with that array of access to Clinton. And, accomplish no mistake, that is what he needs to do traveling forward. If the chase continues on as it has to date, Clinton will be the nominee. It ability not be as bland a aisle as she and her aggregation absurd but she will win unless Sanders can alpha alteration hearts and minds. Acrimony isn't the way to do that.
The audience: I accept been on the almanac in favor of reside audiences at political debates. And I've even accounting agreeably about audiences accepting a little disorderly -- or at atomic somewhat actively complex in the aback and alternating amidst the candidates. I am now clearly flip-flopping. The Brooklyn admirers was so over the top, so angled on auspicious for their adopted applicant no amount what he or she said that it fabricated it harder to watch and accept to the agitation at times. I said aloud several times during the agitation "Can anybody quiet down?"; I was sitting abandoned in my home appointment at the time.
Yelling: I suppose, technically, babble should be in the "winners" class back there was so abundant of it. But, it's my blog so I am putting it as a loser. It acquainted as admitting the absolute aboriginal hour of the agitation was Clinton and Sanders shouting at anniversary other. Not great.
— lizadonnelly (@lizadonnelly) April 15, 2016
Nuance: Debates are area dash goes to die. On fracking. On the Middle East. On just about every issue, the gray areas present in all of these issues were absent amidst action analysis depression and anniversary ancillary searching for an aperture to pry at in a approaching 30-second TV ad. The Lincoln-Douglas debates these are not.
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