AP SPIN METER: Polls put 2016 hopefuls in a fickle pickle, Going into the Iowa caucuses in 2012, anybody was bedeviled on the assessment acclamation except, it seems, Iowa voters. Republicans delivered achievement to a backward in the surveys — and a base assignment on the hazards of account too abundant into polling.
Memories are short. Appear Monday in Iowa, or Feb. 9 in New Hampshire or somewhere, sometime, you can bet the poll-riveted political chic will get addition spanking.
For months, horse chase acclamation accept been the prime disciplinarian of who is perceived to be rising, falling and acknowledgment in the 2016 presidential campaign. That begins to change if Iowa caucus-goers accessible voting in the 2016 presidential campaign. But the polling blast will go on, as will the hand-in-hand bold of expectations and perceptions, until votes accept been casting in abundant states to defended the affair nominations. And from again until Election Day in November.
How addictive are polls? Donald Trump eats them for breakfast, lunch, banquet and bedtime snack. "YUGE" chunks of his rallies are about polls.
Bernie Sanders loves them, too, now that they attending bigger for him. All candidates adulation acclamation pointing upward. If the aggravate just will not budge, though, they adjure assorted rationalizations to explain how they get up and advance through addition day.
What some candidates say about polling and the absoluteness abaft their words:
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THE SPIN: "I don't affliction what the acclamation say." — Jeb Bush.
THE METER: Yes you do.
His own attack conducted polling until that became too expensive.
Even if you don't accept them — conceivably with acceptable acumen — acclamation matter. They affect how abundant money a applicant raises, endorsements from affair luminaries and the accessible absorption paid to the candidacy. And in this campaign, acclamation actuate who makes the cut for the capital Republican debates, who stands area on that date and about who gets the a lot of questions.
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THE SPIN: "The acclamation are not scientific." — Rand Paul.
THE METER: The low-polling Kentucky agent is appropriate that abounding aren't. Even ones that are accurate can absence the mark. And ones that are accurate and appropriate still are alone a snapshot of the moment.
But if a assumption of scientifically conducted acclamation finds you to be an afterthought, there's a acceptable adventitious you are an afterthought, let's say, 19 times out of 20.
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THE SPIN: "Once Iowans get into that controlling pocket, none of the pollsters aback East can acquaint you how it's traveling to about-face out." — Martin O'Malley.
THE METER: Despite his bash at the "back East" polling establishment, civil Iowa acclamation aswell acquisition the above Maryland governor abaft Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders by a Midwestern country mile.
It's true, though, that Iowans can bear a shocker; attestant Rick Santorum's 2012 victory. He was fifth or worse in acclamation several weeks afore the GOP caucuses, ascent to a abroad third in final polls.
And in New Hampshire in 2008, acclamation beyond the lath showed a bright advance for Barack Obama until the end, if he absent to Hillary Clinton.
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THE SPIN: "Lovefest." — Trump on an overflow Mississippi crowd. "Every area is continuing allowance only." — Ben Carson on his home-stretch Iowa audiences. "We're seeing beyond and beyond crowds." — O'Malley.
THE METER: There's annihilation like a sea of affable faces to accommodate an antitoxin to bad acclamation or to sweeten acceptable ones. Trump and Sanders accept active throngs and able polling traveling for them. But, like anybody else, they don't yet accept an absolute vote. The catechism for them is whether all that activity will get their supporters to appear out Monday night for caucuses that can yield hours. That's everyone's challenge.
Obama finer adapted the affection of his 2008 Iowa rallies into a conclave victory. And in 2012, Santorum drew from motivated religious conservatives to zoom out of the polling apathy and cheep to the top.
As for others aggressive Monday, claims about abscess crowds are absolutely relative. Carson, O'Malley and others may be seeing added humans as abeyant voters get affianced in the final days, but these campaigns aren't booking big halls.
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THE SPIN: "In the eighth poll this month, John Kasich is durably in additional abode a part of acceptable New Hampshire voters." — Kasich attack statement.
THE METER: Firmly?
The campaign's affirmation is a case abstraction in blank the allowance of absurdity inherent in polling, and of cherry-picking polls. Both ancestry are about accepted in politics.
In 5 of the eight polls, Kasich was statistically angry in additional abode with Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Bush or several of them at once. A advance aural the allowance of absurdity is not relevant. And in three of the polls, Kasich had no allowance over rivals at all — he and Cruz both polled at 15 percent in one, he and Rubio at 14 percent in another, he and Bush at 12 percent in a third.
The attack after added a ninth poll to abutment its case. In that one, Kasich was in fact airtight with three added rivals beneath Trump and not in a statistically cogent additional place.
Altogether, abounding of the nine acclamation cited by Kasich's attack accept poor clue annal or acclimated techniques that abort to ability ample portions of the population. He may accomplishment additional in the primary anyway, but the acclamation don't authorize that that's area he is now.
Memories are short. Appear Monday in Iowa, or Feb. 9 in New Hampshire or somewhere, sometime, you can bet the poll-riveted political chic will get addition spanking.
For months, horse chase acclamation accept been the prime disciplinarian of who is perceived to be rising, falling and acknowledgment in the 2016 presidential campaign. That begins to change if Iowa caucus-goers accessible voting in the 2016 presidential campaign. But the polling blast will go on, as will the hand-in-hand bold of expectations and perceptions, until votes accept been casting in abundant states to defended the affair nominations. And from again until Election Day in November.
How addictive are polls? Donald Trump eats them for breakfast, lunch, banquet and bedtime snack. "YUGE" chunks of his rallies are about polls.
Bernie Sanders loves them, too, now that they attending bigger for him. All candidates adulation acclamation pointing upward. If the aggravate just will not budge, though, they adjure assorted rationalizations to explain how they get up and advance through addition day.
What some candidates say about polling and the absoluteness abaft their words:
___
THE SPIN: "I don't affliction what the acclamation say." — Jeb Bush.
THE METER: Yes you do.
His own attack conducted polling until that became too expensive.
Even if you don't accept them — conceivably with acceptable acumen — acclamation matter. They affect how abundant money a applicant raises, endorsements from affair luminaries and the accessible absorption paid to the candidacy. And in this campaign, acclamation actuate who makes the cut for the capital Republican debates, who stands area on that date and about who gets the a lot of questions.
___
THE SPIN: "The acclamation are not scientific." — Rand Paul.
THE METER: The low-polling Kentucky agent is appropriate that abounding aren't. Even ones that are accurate can absence the mark. And ones that are accurate and appropriate still are alone a snapshot of the moment.
But if a assumption of scientifically conducted acclamation finds you to be an afterthought, there's a acceptable adventitious you are an afterthought, let's say, 19 times out of 20.
___
THE SPIN: "Once Iowans get into that controlling pocket, none of the pollsters aback East can acquaint you how it's traveling to about-face out." — Martin O'Malley.
THE METER: Despite his bash at the "back East" polling establishment, civil Iowa acclamation aswell acquisition the above Maryland governor abaft Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders by a Midwestern country mile.
It's true, though, that Iowans can bear a shocker; attestant Rick Santorum's 2012 victory. He was fifth or worse in acclamation several weeks afore the GOP caucuses, ascent to a abroad third in final polls.
And in New Hampshire in 2008, acclamation beyond the lath showed a bright advance for Barack Obama until the end, if he absent to Hillary Clinton.
___
THE SPIN: "Lovefest." — Trump on an overflow Mississippi crowd. "Every area is continuing allowance only." — Ben Carson on his home-stretch Iowa audiences. "We're seeing beyond and beyond crowds." — O'Malley.
THE METER: There's annihilation like a sea of affable faces to accommodate an antitoxin to bad acclamation or to sweeten acceptable ones. Trump and Sanders accept active throngs and able polling traveling for them. But, like anybody else, they don't yet accept an absolute vote. The catechism for them is whether all that activity will get their supporters to appear out Monday night for caucuses that can yield hours. That's everyone's challenge.
Obama finer adapted the affection of his 2008 Iowa rallies into a conclave victory. And in 2012, Santorum drew from motivated religious conservatives to zoom out of the polling apathy and cheep to the top.
As for others aggressive Monday, claims about abscess crowds are absolutely relative. Carson, O'Malley and others may be seeing added humans as abeyant voters get affianced in the final days, but these campaigns aren't booking big halls.
___
THE SPIN: "In the eighth poll this month, John Kasich is durably in additional abode a part of acceptable New Hampshire voters." — Kasich attack statement.
THE METER: Firmly?
The campaign's affirmation is a case abstraction in blank the allowance of absurdity inherent in polling, and of cherry-picking polls. Both ancestry are about accepted in politics.
In 5 of the eight polls, Kasich was statistically angry in additional abode with Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Bush or several of them at once. A advance aural the allowance of absurdity is not relevant. And in three of the polls, Kasich had no allowance over rivals at all — he and Cruz both polled at 15 percent in one, he and Rubio at 14 percent in another, he and Bush at 12 percent in a third.
The attack after added a ninth poll to abutment its case. In that one, Kasich was in fact airtight with three added rivals beneath Trump and not in a statistically cogent additional place.
Altogether, abounding of the nine acclamation cited by Kasich's attack accept poor clue annal or acclimated techniques that abort to ability ample portions of the population. He may accomplishment additional in the primary anyway, but the acclamation don't authorize that that's area he is now.
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