Full Transcript: ABC's David Muir Interviews Hillary Clinton, On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, ABC News' host of "World Account Tonight" ballast David Muir interviewed Presidential applicant Hillary Clinton.
The afterward is a archetype of the interview:
DAVID MUIR: Secretary Clinton, accede you.DAVID MUIR: Actuality we sit, 5 months into your attack and there are some abrupt poll numbers out there, and I'm abiding you're acquainted of them, if it comes to how Americans see you. Our ABC poll, Gallup, Quinnipiac assuming your favorability numbers demography a aciculate dive.
In one poll, the everyman ever. And if voters were asked, "What is the aboriginal chat that comes to apperception if you anticipate of Hillary Clinton?" Words like liar, dishonest, capricious were at the top of the list. Does this acquaint you that your aboriginal annual about the clandestine server, that you did it to backpack one buzz out of convenience, that this didn't sit able-bodied with the American people?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, David, obviously, I don't like audition that. I am assured by the end of this attack humans will apperceive they can assurance me. And that I will be on their ancillary and will action for them and their families. But I do anticipate I could accept and should accept done a bigger job answering questions earlier.
I actually didn't conceivably accede the charge to do that. What I had done was allowed, it was aloft board. But in retrospect, certainly, as I attending aback at it now, even admitting it was allowed, I should've acclimated two accounts. One for personal, one for work-related emails.
That was a mistake. I'm apologetic about that. I yield responsibility. And I'm aggravating to be as cellophane as I possibly can to not alone absolution 55,000 pages of my emails, about-face over my server. But I am searching forward, finally, to testifying afore Congress. Something I've been allurement for about a year.
DAVID MUIR: You accept said you would apologize for the abashing but not say, "I'm sorry." But I did apprehend a chat in there just a moment ago and I'm curious. Would you accede that you fabricated a aberration here? Because you wrote in your own annual endure year just how important application the chat aberration is in politics. You, you wrote, "In our political culture, adage you fabricated a aberration is generally taken as weakness if in actuality it can be a assurance of backbone and growth." And so as you sit here, millions watching tonight, did you accomplish a mistake?
HILLARY CLINTON: I did. I did. As I said, it was accustomed and there was no ambuscade it. It was actually aloft board. Everybody in the government I announced with -- and that was a lot of people-- knew I was application a claimed e-mail. But I'm apologetic that it has, you know, aloft all of these questions. I do yield albatross for accepting fabricated what is acutely not the best decision. And I ambition humans to apperceive that I am aggravating to be as cellophane as accessible so that, you know, accepted questions can and will be answered.
DAVID MUIR: You mentioned everybody in the government knew that you were application this clandestine server. It-- did adolescent associates of the chiffonier know? Did the admiral know?
HILLARY CLINTON: Anybody I emailed with, and I'm not traveling to go into names, but let me say I emailed with abounding humans in the White House and the blow of the government, of course, above the Accompaniment Department, knew that I was emailing from a claimed account.
It appeared, you know, as my address. But I emailed two humans on their .gov accounts. And that's why I believed and I anticipate it's been authentic to be accurate, that the all-inclusive majority of aggregate that I was emailing would be captured on the Accompaniment Department system. Or on the government arrangement that I emailed into.
DAVID MUIR: You see the new annual every day, just as we do. The New York Times just today advertisement on a additional assay now of two of the emails in accurate beatific to you. The Times advertisement they accommodate classified information. The intelligence community's Inspector General cogent ABC today that afterwards reviewing those emails, that two of them backpack the allocation of top secret.
That both of emails were classified if they were created and abide classified now. One was about drones, one was about North Korea's nuclear program. And I'm curious, does this beggarly classified advice anesthetized through your clandestine server?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, there is still, as you know, a dispute. The Accompaniment Department disputes that. I accept why altered agencies accept altered angle and I annual that. It does not change the actuality that I did not avant-garde or accept any advice that was apparent classified at the time.
Now, I apperceive that it's harder for humans who haven't been in these systems, perhaps, to accept actually how this works. But in the Accompaniment Department, you had an characterless arrangement So, David, even if I had acclimated a government annual on the Accompaniment Department-- government arrangement and I had said I capital emails released, we would be traveling through the aforementioned process.
And that is a actual archetypal action that takes abode if advice is requested. Or somebody asks that it be fabricated public. So these aforementioned kinds of disagreements amid altered locations of the government would be occurring. But I anticipate even the Inspector General of the Intelligence Committee as able-bodied as-- association as able-bodied as others accept said I did not avant-garde nor accept any advice that was apparent classified at the time.
DAVID MUIR: Right, at the time apparent classified. But let me ask you, for the blow of us, the boilerplate aborigine and boilerplate eyewitness out there who ability wonder, how can some of these emails be classified and labeled as top abstruse today? What afflicted in them so decidedly that you wouldn't accept apparent red flags even just a brace of years ago as Secretary of State? That you, of all people, would've known.
HILLARY CLINTON: Yeah, that's a actual fair question. And I anticipate there are a brace of answers. One, sometimes contest do advance in a way that maybe there's a case getting brought adjoin somebody. Maybe even a terrorist. And all of a abrupt aggregate is classified until the balloon attorneys go through it to amount out what should or shouldn't be public.
Maybe there is a backward-looking accomplishment to see, okay, maybe that wasn’t classified. Or maybe that was characterless on the Accompaniment Department system. But we had it on a altered arrangement and we advised it differently. Something that we wouldn't accept accepted about in the Accompaniment Department. So--
DAVID MUIR:But North Korea's nuclear program? Wouldn't that be classified?
HILLARY CLINTON: There's a lot of accessible advice about their nuclear program. I don't apperceive the specifics about the one that they are claiming is classified. I can alone echo what happens to be the case-- that I did not avant-garde nor accept advice that was apparent classified at the time that it was beatific or received.
DAVID MUIR: Let's go bigger account actuality for a moment, because abounding who actually bluntly capital to abutment you accept now abstruse of this F.B.I. investigation, accept abstruse of the I.T. guy who helped set up the server planning to appeal the Fifth.
And abounding who accept said to themselves, you know, "Hillary Clinton of all humans who's been in the accessible eye for so continued that she should accept known." And conceivably the added important catechism they're allurement is, "Can Hillary Clinton survive this?" Can you?
HILLARY CLINTON: Yes, of advance I can. I, as you ability guess, accept been about a while and there've been lots of, you know, attacks and counter-attacks and questions raised. And I can survive it because I anticipate I'm active to be admiral to do what the country needs done.
And I accept the American humans will acknowledge to that. You know, with annual to the two credibility that you made, this is a aegis investigation. And that's why I angry over my server. It's not, as has been confirmed, a bent investigation. Again, that needs to be explained to humans because they may not accept the difference.
And I, I anticipate on all of this, I'm searching avant-garde to testifying afore the Congress in public, which is what I accepted to be able to do. I'll acknowledgment all their questions for as continued as they ambition to ask them. But at the end of the day, at atomic in the advancement that I'm accomplishing about the country, humans wanna apperceive what I'm gonna do for them.
What I'm gonna do for their families. They ambition a admiral who will yield affliction of the big issues that are in the headlines, whether it's ISIS. or altitude change or Syrian refugees. But they aswell ambition a admiral who's gonna affliction about the problems that accumulate them up at night. And they apperceive that I will and that I will plan harder to try to accomplish America plan afresh for people.
DAVID MUIR: We saw the voters out with you this weekend. We aswell saw voters out with Joe Biden. He was jogging alternating the way and, and we heard them shouting, "Run, Joe, run." And you've said anybody should accord him time to decide--
HILLARY CLINTON: That's right.
DAVID MUIR: --given what's happened afresh in his family. But you were already on the aforementioned aggregation central the White House. You would generally accept breakfast with the carnality president. Would he accomplish a acceptable president?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, I like Joe Biden a lot. And I anticipate he is a abundant carnality president. If he gets into this election, there’ll be lots of time to allocution about, you know, what he--
DAVID MUIR: But would he make--
HILLARY CLINTON: --wants to do.
DAVID MUIR: Would he accomplish a acceptable president?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, you know, I anticipate he could be a acceptable president. There's no agnosticism about that. But I anticipate he, you know, we shouldn't get into the backroom of this aback and alternating because I don't anticipate it's fair to him. He's testing the waters. He deserves to assay the waters.
He deserves to affectionate of feel it. It's such an affecting decision. At the end of the day, this is a grueling, difficult adventure that anybody who decides to run for admiral capacity themselves to. And you accept to be actually accessible and prepared.
And Joe has said himself he's got to acquisition out whether he's got the fortitude, accustomed aggregate that's happened to him. So I'm not gonna animadversion on his attack in waiting. Or whether there even is a campaign.
DAVID MUIR: And afresh who does the admiral choose? Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, I anticipate the admiral will accept to adjournment to adjudge who the candidates are. And I apperceive he wants to be succeeded by a Democrat and I actual abundant achievement that happens because I anticipate the country and the abridgement do bigger if we accept a Democrat in the White House.
DAVID MUIR: Let's allocution about the accent you plan to accord tomorrow. A above accent laying out your abutment for the Iran nuclear deal. As you know, Republicans accept appear out swinging, even some Democrats, too about what happens if the accord is done.
And I capital to ask you about a contempo Brookings assay that says afterwards 15 years, Iran would be accustomed to aftermath reactor-grade ammunition on an automated calibration application far added avant-garde centrifuges. And that the admonishing time, if Iran decides to chase for a bomb, would compress to weeks. Does that affair you?
HILLARY CLINTON: Of advance it does Aggregate about Iran apropos me. I do not assurance them. You know, to digest Admiral Reagan, you know, "Don't trust. And yes, verify." I intend to lay out tomorrow why I anticipate this acceding is in the best absorption of the United States.
Of our allies, including Israel. But that we accept to abide actual vigilant. And I will allocution about some of the accomplish I would yield as admiral to accomplish to the complete letter the acceding to authority Iran accountable. And to re-affirm that we can never, anytime acquiesce Iran to accept a nuclear weapon.
DAVID MUIR: You say don't trust, verify You've aswell said bluff and you will pay. Your above assembly colleague, Chuck Schumer, adjoin the deal, adage inspections are not anywhere, anytime. And that the 24-day adjournment afore we can audit is troubling. Does that 24-day cat-and-mouse aeon agitation you, too?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, there's a lot of added inspections traveling on. This is an aspect of the inspections, which I will abode tomorrow. Annihilation about Iran and whether or not it will accede with the acceding it signs I anticipate has to abide an accessible question. There's no agnosticism about that. The real--
DAVID MUIR: But does it accord it ti-- does it accord the Iranians time to move things out of the way?
HILLARY CLINTON: You know-- we now accept actual avant-garde apprehension equipment. I anticipate one of the a lot of important contributors to the acceding was Secretary Moniz the Secretary of the Department of Energy a nuclear physicist from M.I.T. I yield actual actively what he says.
Because I apperceive of his ability in this arena. Tomorrow, I will be actual abundant acclamation the skeptics. Because they accomplish some acceptable points. They, I don't adios their apropos out of hand. I anticipate they are actually legitimate.
The absolute basal band is, what's our bigger alternative? I put calm the affiliation that brought the apple to the abode area we imposed all-around sanctions on Iran. It took me 18 months and afresh it took me accession year to accomplish abiding that they were getting followed. I apperceive how harder this is to get the apple calm to angle up to anybody, let alone Iran.
We did that. We got them to the negotiating table. Now, of course, if the United States walks away, the blow of the apple is traveling to think, adjournment a minute. We got the best accord we could. And accustomed the constraints, I anticipate that is the case. And the sanctions would be gone in any event. The United States can accumulate arty them, but that's what we did during the Bush administration.
So that if we came in, Admiral Obama and I came in as Secretary of State, the Iranians had already baffled the nuclear ammunition aeon beneath the Bush administration. They had congenital buried facilities. They had abounding them with centrifuges. They were proceeding. So our sanctions, aggregate we did as the United States in those eight years of the two Bush agreement did not stop Iran. We now accept the opportunity, if agilely enforced, to stop them.
And to anticipate them. Now, we accept to activate to attending at what happens at the end of ten years, what happens at the end of 15 years. But this gives us time. It puts a lid on their nuclear weapons program. It allows us, frankly, David, to turn, to accord with some of their added actual adverse behavior.
Their abutment of terrorism. Their connected abutment of Hezbollah and Hamas Their arrest with the countries in the, their arena from Yemen to others. So we've got added problems with Iran. This gives us the adventitious to accumulate that lid on their nuclear weapons affairs and to about-face to body the aforementioned kinda affiliation adjoin them if it comes to their abutment for Assad and so abundant else.
DAVID MUIR: Aback actuality at home, Donald Trump. I wanna apprehend you something Jeb Bush has afresh tweeted. "Can't adjournment for this summer absoluteness TV appearance to be over."
HILLARY CLINTON: That's cute.
DAVID MUIR: But is it a absoluteness show? Or are we witnessing something absolute here?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, that's gonna be up to the Republicans and the Republican primaries to determine. You know, I'm consistently a little amused if humans get into backroom and they anticipate that all you accept to do is accord speeches and the added bright you are, the added dramatic, the added angry you are that's leadership.
Well, in fact, if you're active to be admiral of the United States, you accept to apperceive every individual day that humans all over the apple actually pay absorption to what you say. They accomplish decisions, markets acceleration and fall, armies get bigger or smaller. Things appear with absolute consequences.
And if we accept humans whose appearance of administration is the affectionate of address that gets, you know, lots of applause, gets lots of attention, afresh I anticipate we advertise ourselves short. So we accept fabricated the about-face into the post-Labor Day period. And it's traveling to be up to the Republican voters who decide, you know, who they ambition to support.
DAVID MUIR: Do you anticipate Donald Trump is just a baton of address and speeches?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, he will not acquaint you how he would do anything. You know, you try to catechism him about, "Okay, acquaint me, you wanna deport 11 or 12 actor people. How are you gonna do that?" "Well, we're, you know, we're just gonna acquaint 'em to leave and afresh they can get in band to appear back." You know, that's, that's hardly a policy.
DAVID MUIR: Something abroad he said, "That I will yield affliction of women's bloom and women's bloom issues bigger than anybody. And far bigger than Hillary Clinton who doesn't accept a clue."
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, that's just cool It's laughable, if it weren't about a austere issue. Women's bloom is actually an important affair to me, personally, as able-bodied as the plan that I've done for abounding decades. And if that's his position, I attending forward, if he is the nominee, to debating him about it.
DAVID MUIR: But privately, as you're traveling with your attack team, I mean, if you apprehend something like that what's your aboriginal reaction?
HILLARY CLINTON:There he goes again. And I've addressed that. I aloft that accurate affair if I was in New Hampshire Saturday. And at the assemblage of Women for Hillary, area Senator Shaheen accustomed me. And, you know, we just attending at anniversary other, we just shrug.
I mean, it's just added of the same. And we're gonna be captivated to a top accepted about, you know, what I would do as president. How I would do it. What behavior I would promote. What's my vision. How do I get things done? Everybody abroad should be asked the same.
DAVID MUIR: We sat down with the pope just endure anniversary and he's made--
HILLARY CLINTON: I'm jealous. I ambition I could've been there.
DAVID MUIR:It was extraordinary. Extraordinary. And he fabricated account afresh today radically transforming the action for Catholics if it comes to abatement and abatement aural the church, speaking of a added across-the-board church. Fast-tracking the process. And I'm analytical what you accomplish of this pope and some of the changes he's authoritative in the church.
HILLARY CLINTON: I am not a Catholic but I am a abundant adherent of the pope because I anticipate what he's aggravating to do is to yield this admirable institution, the Roman Catholic Church, and really, already again, abode it on a close foundation of the scriptures, of Christ's words.
One cannot apprehend the Sermon on the Mount afterwards cerebration that we all accept to be added humble. We all accept to be added affectionate and respectful. We all accept to try to do added to advice our adolescent men and women. And I anticipate that the pope is emphasizing the words of Jesus Christ. Emphasizing the top antecedence accustomed to the poor. The antecedence of caring for those who are in trouble. Whether they are on the ancillary of the alley or whether they are in prison. It's harder if you are in the apple we reside in to be as acceptable a agent of Christ's words--
DAVID MUIR: With the pa--
HILLARY CLINTON: --as we would like.
DAVID MUIR: With the accessory divide, though, in this country, is he traveling to accomplish humans feel afflictive during that collective affair with Congress? That aboriginal anytime collective meeting? He doesn't authority back.
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, I anticipate leaders of conscience, decidedly leaders of faith, who say what they accept in their affection and what they are alleged to say generally accomplish humans uncomfortable. And we charge that. We charge added of that. You know, the affectionate of mean-spiritedness that I see too abundant of in our politics, axis our backs on the poor.
Trying to anticipate humans from, you know, accepting the opportunities they charge to accept by acid programs, by authoritative academy actually unaffordable for accomplished low assets kids. There's a lot that's amiss in America. And it's not just amiss politically, it's actually amiss in our hearts.
And I achievement what the pope does is to prick the censor of everyone. I'm not talking right, left, Republican, Democrat All of us accept to do better. And if he can arouse that affection of America. You know, de Tocqueville was actually appropriate if he said, "What sets us afar in accession to the getting the longest democracy, our Constitution and so abundant else, are the habits of the affection of Americans."
He noticed that way aback in the 1830s. We've gotta be reminded of that. You know, that’s in ample admeasurement what the action over the Confederate banderole was about. Really? Do we charge a attribute of divisiveness? A action banderole that was a attribute of racism to be aerial on our accompaniment grounds? No, we don't. But there's so abundant abroad we can do bigger together. And I achievement the pope actually calls us to do that.
DAVID MUIR: And helps activation the conversation. Just a brace of ablaze questions afore you arch aback out on the attack aisle afterwards us today. I accept you're a fan of House of Cards.
HILLARY CLINTON: I am.
DAVID MUIR: I'm just analytical who you chronicle to more, Robin Wright as Aboriginal Lady or Kevin Spacey as Commander in Chief?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, honestly, neither. You know, I anticipate I apperceive abundant about our political arrangement and the acuity of the columnist that neither of them would be in that position. But it's abundant ball and I-- they're just such superb actors.
DAVID MUIR: Charlotte turns one in just a brace of weeks.
HILLARY CLINTON: She does. She does.
DAVID MUIR: I'm curious, what is she traveling to alarm you if she starts talking?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well
DAVID MUIR: Is it Grandma Clinton? Is it--
HILLARY CLINTON:I don't know, David. We're waiting. You know, she doesn't allocution yet. She makes lots of sounds. She's got a few words but I wanna adjournment to see what she does alarm me. Grandma's fine. Madame President's fine. Whatever she chooses.
DAVID MUIR: Uh-huh. She'll be talking afore then, though. Able-bodied afore then, right?
HILLARY CLINTON:Yes, she will. She will.
DAVID MUIR: She'll accept to watch the action with you. And let me, let me assuredly end the account by allurement about something you fabricated a advertence to with Joe Biden. In talking about Joe Biden, you said it takes, it takes a lot to run for president.
Americans accept watched you as Aboriginal Lady, they watched you run for Senate, they watched you run for admiral the aboriginal time. You served as Secretary of State. And now you're active for admiral a additional time. And I, I wanna apperceive in your a lot of clandestine of moments, is there anytime an instance if you ask yourself, "Why am I accomplishing this again?"
HILLARY CLINTON: Yes. Of course. Because it actually is hard. And it's, it's something that you know, just demands everything. Physically, emotionally, spiritually. It is just 24/7. And you accept to be actually present. Everybody that I accommodated I ambition to accord them my best.
So, yeah, at the end of a actual continued day you go, "Wow, this is actually hard." But afresh you do a boondocks anteroom in a abode like Newton, Iowa. And a adolescent mother stands up with her four-and-a-half-month old babyish in her arms. And she said, "You know, why is it so harder getting a mom in this country? I charge paid leave. I, I don't wanna leave my babyish too early."
I ambition added humans to accept the aforementioned opportunities. These are issues that I accept fought for my absolute developed life. I admire and adulation this country. It gave me, you know, opportunities far above annihilation my mother or my ancestor could accept had. I wanna accomplish abiding that everybody has those aforementioned opportunities. Not just our granddaughter, the granddaughter of a above president. But every individual adolescent in America can feel what I felt. You know, yeah, do we accept to do better? Do we accept problems?
I grew up in the Civil Rights era. Of advance we did. You know, we still accept a continued way to go. But no nation has anytime done added to be added inclusive, to try to affected the problems of animal attributes that we all are afflicted by. And I anticipate that our nation deserves a admiral who will be focused on allegorical us through the big problems we face. But aswell remembering, you know, what those humans accept told me all my activity about the difficulties they appointment just aggravating to accession a family. Just aggravating to accomplish it in America again. So it's harder but--
DAVID MUIR: So you do wake-up--
HILLARY CLINTON: --it's actually account it.
DAVID MUIR: --you wake-up like the blow of us every already in a while and think--
HILLARY CLINTON: Yeah, it's hard.
DAVID MUIR: --"Am I actually accomplishing this again?"
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, yeah, of course. You know, I, I never, you know, I, I was a girl. I never anticipation I would run for admiral if I was growing up. I never anticipation I'd be in political life. I never actually believed I'd run for anything. And it was a continued adventure to get me to accede to run for the Assembly the aboriginal time. And it was a adolescent woman who abiding me if she basically ashamed me by saying, you know, "You go about cogent humans to compete. Well, cartel to compete, Mrs. Clinton." So I did.
DAVID MUIR: Is, is your mother's articulation in your ear? And if so, what's--
HILLARY CLINTON: My, yeah.
DAVID MUIR: --give me the, accord me one band that you echo to yourself.
HILLARY CLINTON: You know, as, as you apparently know, my mother had a abhorrent childhood. She was alone by her parents. She was alone by her grandparents. She was actually alive as a charwoman at the age of 14. And she told me every day, "You've gotta get up and action for what you accept in no amount how harder it is."
And I anticipate about her a lot. I absence her a lot. I ambition she were actuality with me. And I bethink that. And I don't wanna just action for me. I don't, I mean, I can accept a altogether accomplished activity not getting president. I'm gonna action for all the humans like my mother who charge somebody in their corner. And they charge a baton who cares about them again. So that's what I'm gonna try to do.
DAVID MUIR: Are you accepting fun?
HILLARY CLINTON: I am. It's harder but it's fun. A lot of of the things that are harder in activity are fun. And, you know, one of my abundant admired curve from A League of Their Own if Tom Hanks, arena the torn down bashed coach, you know, confronts you know, the amateur that, you know, says, "Look, it's just so hard." And he says, "Supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, anybody could do it."
DAVID MUIR: Secretary Clinton, we accede you.
HILLARY CLINTON: Thanks, David.
DAVID MUIR: See you on the trail.
HILLARY CLINTON: Yeah, you bet.
DAVID MUIR: Accede you. Accede you.
HILLARY CLINTON: Attending avant-garde to it.
DAVID MUIR: That's excellent. Accede you.
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DAVID MUIR: Secretary Clinton, accede you.DAVID MUIR: Actuality we sit, 5 months into your attack and there are some abrupt poll numbers out there, and I'm abiding you're acquainted of them, if it comes to how Americans see you. Our ABC poll, Gallup, Quinnipiac assuming your favorability numbers demography a aciculate dive.
In one poll, the everyman ever. And if voters were asked, "What is the aboriginal chat that comes to apperception if you anticipate of Hillary Clinton?" Words like liar, dishonest, capricious were at the top of the list. Does this acquaint you that your aboriginal annual about the clandestine server, that you did it to backpack one buzz out of convenience, that this didn't sit able-bodied with the American people?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, David, obviously, I don't like audition that. I am assured by the end of this attack humans will apperceive they can assurance me. And that I will be on their ancillary and will action for them and their families. But I do anticipate I could accept and should accept done a bigger job answering questions earlier.
I actually didn't conceivably accede the charge to do that. What I had done was allowed, it was aloft board. But in retrospect, certainly, as I attending aback at it now, even admitting it was allowed, I should've acclimated two accounts. One for personal, one for work-related emails.
That was a mistake. I'm apologetic about that. I yield responsibility. And I'm aggravating to be as cellophane as I possibly can to not alone absolution 55,000 pages of my emails, about-face over my server. But I am searching forward, finally, to testifying afore Congress. Something I've been allurement for about a year.
DAVID MUIR: You accept said you would apologize for the abashing but not say, "I'm sorry." But I did apprehend a chat in there just a moment ago and I'm curious. Would you accede that you fabricated a aberration here? Because you wrote in your own annual endure year just how important application the chat aberration is in politics. You, you wrote, "In our political culture, adage you fabricated a aberration is generally taken as weakness if in actuality it can be a assurance of backbone and growth." And so as you sit here, millions watching tonight, did you accomplish a mistake?
HILLARY CLINTON: I did. I did. As I said, it was accustomed and there was no ambuscade it. It was actually aloft board. Everybody in the government I announced with -- and that was a lot of people-- knew I was application a claimed e-mail. But I'm apologetic that it has, you know, aloft all of these questions. I do yield albatross for accepting fabricated what is acutely not the best decision. And I ambition humans to apperceive that I am aggravating to be as cellophane as accessible so that, you know, accepted questions can and will be answered.
DAVID MUIR: You mentioned everybody in the government knew that you were application this clandestine server. It-- did adolescent associates of the chiffonier know? Did the admiral know?
HILLARY CLINTON: Anybody I emailed with, and I'm not traveling to go into names, but let me say I emailed with abounding humans in the White House and the blow of the government, of course, above the Accompaniment Department, knew that I was emailing from a claimed account.
It appeared, you know, as my address. But I emailed two humans on their .gov accounts. And that's why I believed and I anticipate it's been authentic to be accurate, that the all-inclusive majority of aggregate that I was emailing would be captured on the Accompaniment Department system. Or on the government arrangement that I emailed into.
DAVID MUIR: You see the new annual every day, just as we do. The New York Times just today advertisement on a additional assay now of two of the emails in accurate beatific to you. The Times advertisement they accommodate classified information. The intelligence community's Inspector General cogent ABC today that afterwards reviewing those emails, that two of them backpack the allocation of top secret.
That both of emails were classified if they were created and abide classified now. One was about drones, one was about North Korea's nuclear program. And I'm curious, does this beggarly classified advice anesthetized through your clandestine server?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, there is still, as you know, a dispute. The Accompaniment Department disputes that. I accept why altered agencies accept altered angle and I annual that. It does not change the actuality that I did not avant-garde or accept any advice that was apparent classified at the time.
Now, I apperceive that it's harder for humans who haven't been in these systems, perhaps, to accept actually how this works. But in the Accompaniment Department, you had an characterless arrangement So, David, even if I had acclimated a government annual on the Accompaniment Department-- government arrangement and I had said I capital emails released, we would be traveling through the aforementioned process.
And that is a actual archetypal action that takes abode if advice is requested. Or somebody asks that it be fabricated public. So these aforementioned kinds of disagreements amid altered locations of the government would be occurring. But I anticipate even the Inspector General of the Intelligence Committee as able-bodied as-- association as able-bodied as others accept said I did not avant-garde nor accept any advice that was apparent classified at the time.
DAVID MUIR: Right, at the time apparent classified. But let me ask you, for the blow of us, the boilerplate aborigine and boilerplate eyewitness out there who ability wonder, how can some of these emails be classified and labeled as top abstruse today? What afflicted in them so decidedly that you wouldn't accept apparent red flags even just a brace of years ago as Secretary of State? That you, of all people, would've known.
HILLARY CLINTON: Yeah, that's a actual fair question. And I anticipate there are a brace of answers. One, sometimes contest do advance in a way that maybe there's a case getting brought adjoin somebody. Maybe even a terrorist. And all of a abrupt aggregate is classified until the balloon attorneys go through it to amount out what should or shouldn't be public.
Maybe there is a backward-looking accomplishment to see, okay, maybe that wasn’t classified. Or maybe that was characterless on the Accompaniment Department system. But we had it on a altered arrangement and we advised it differently. Something that we wouldn't accept accepted about in the Accompaniment Department. So--
DAVID MUIR:But North Korea's nuclear program? Wouldn't that be classified?
HILLARY CLINTON: There's a lot of accessible advice about their nuclear program. I don't apperceive the specifics about the one that they are claiming is classified. I can alone echo what happens to be the case-- that I did not avant-garde nor accept advice that was apparent classified at the time that it was beatific or received.
DAVID MUIR: Let's go bigger account actuality for a moment, because abounding who actually bluntly capital to abutment you accept now abstruse of this F.B.I. investigation, accept abstruse of the I.T. guy who helped set up the server planning to appeal the Fifth.
And abounding who accept said to themselves, you know, "Hillary Clinton of all humans who's been in the accessible eye for so continued that she should accept known." And conceivably the added important catechism they're allurement is, "Can Hillary Clinton survive this?" Can you?
HILLARY CLINTON: Yes, of advance I can. I, as you ability guess, accept been about a while and there've been lots of, you know, attacks and counter-attacks and questions raised. And I can survive it because I anticipate I'm active to be admiral to do what the country needs done.
And I accept the American humans will acknowledge to that. You know, with annual to the two credibility that you made, this is a aegis investigation. And that's why I angry over my server. It's not, as has been confirmed, a bent investigation. Again, that needs to be explained to humans because they may not accept the difference.
And I, I anticipate on all of this, I'm searching avant-garde to testifying afore the Congress in public, which is what I accepted to be able to do. I'll acknowledgment all their questions for as continued as they ambition to ask them. But at the end of the day, at atomic in the advancement that I'm accomplishing about the country, humans wanna apperceive what I'm gonna do for them.
What I'm gonna do for their families. They ambition a admiral who will yield affliction of the big issues that are in the headlines, whether it's ISIS. or altitude change or Syrian refugees. But they aswell ambition a admiral who's gonna affliction about the problems that accumulate them up at night. And they apperceive that I will and that I will plan harder to try to accomplish America plan afresh for people.
DAVID MUIR: We saw the voters out with you this weekend. We aswell saw voters out with Joe Biden. He was jogging alternating the way and, and we heard them shouting, "Run, Joe, run." And you've said anybody should accord him time to decide--
HILLARY CLINTON: That's right.
DAVID MUIR: --given what's happened afresh in his family. But you were already on the aforementioned aggregation central the White House. You would generally accept breakfast with the carnality president. Would he accomplish a acceptable president?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, I like Joe Biden a lot. And I anticipate he is a abundant carnality president. If he gets into this election, there’ll be lots of time to allocution about, you know, what he--
DAVID MUIR: But would he make--
HILLARY CLINTON: --wants to do.
DAVID MUIR: Would he accomplish a acceptable president?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, you know, I anticipate he could be a acceptable president. There's no agnosticism about that. But I anticipate he, you know, we shouldn't get into the backroom of this aback and alternating because I don't anticipate it's fair to him. He's testing the waters. He deserves to assay the waters.
He deserves to affectionate of feel it. It's such an affecting decision. At the end of the day, this is a grueling, difficult adventure that anybody who decides to run for admiral capacity themselves to. And you accept to be actually accessible and prepared.
And Joe has said himself he's got to acquisition out whether he's got the fortitude, accustomed aggregate that's happened to him. So I'm not gonna animadversion on his attack in waiting. Or whether there even is a campaign.
DAVID MUIR: And afresh who does the admiral choose? Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, I anticipate the admiral will accept to adjournment to adjudge who the candidates are. And I apperceive he wants to be succeeded by a Democrat and I actual abundant achievement that happens because I anticipate the country and the abridgement do bigger if we accept a Democrat in the White House.
DAVID MUIR: Let's allocution about the accent you plan to accord tomorrow. A above accent laying out your abutment for the Iran nuclear deal. As you know, Republicans accept appear out swinging, even some Democrats, too about what happens if the accord is done.
And I capital to ask you about a contempo Brookings assay that says afterwards 15 years, Iran would be accustomed to aftermath reactor-grade ammunition on an automated calibration application far added avant-garde centrifuges. And that the admonishing time, if Iran decides to chase for a bomb, would compress to weeks. Does that affair you?
HILLARY CLINTON: Of advance it does Aggregate about Iran apropos me. I do not assurance them. You know, to digest Admiral Reagan, you know, "Don't trust. And yes, verify." I intend to lay out tomorrow why I anticipate this acceding is in the best absorption of the United States.
Of our allies, including Israel. But that we accept to abide actual vigilant. And I will allocution about some of the accomplish I would yield as admiral to accomplish to the complete letter the acceding to authority Iran accountable. And to re-affirm that we can never, anytime acquiesce Iran to accept a nuclear weapon.
DAVID MUIR: You say don't trust, verify You've aswell said bluff and you will pay. Your above assembly colleague, Chuck Schumer, adjoin the deal, adage inspections are not anywhere, anytime. And that the 24-day adjournment afore we can audit is troubling. Does that 24-day cat-and-mouse aeon agitation you, too?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, there's a lot of added inspections traveling on. This is an aspect of the inspections, which I will abode tomorrow. Annihilation about Iran and whether or not it will accede with the acceding it signs I anticipate has to abide an accessible question. There's no agnosticism about that. The real--
DAVID MUIR: But does it accord it ti-- does it accord the Iranians time to move things out of the way?
HILLARY CLINTON: You know-- we now accept actual avant-garde apprehension equipment. I anticipate one of the a lot of important contributors to the acceding was Secretary Moniz the Secretary of the Department of Energy a nuclear physicist from M.I.T. I yield actual actively what he says.
Because I apperceive of his ability in this arena. Tomorrow, I will be actual abundant acclamation the skeptics. Because they accomplish some acceptable points. They, I don't adios their apropos out of hand. I anticipate they are actually legitimate.
The absolute basal band is, what's our bigger alternative? I put calm the affiliation that brought the apple to the abode area we imposed all-around sanctions on Iran. It took me 18 months and afresh it took me accession year to accomplish abiding that they were getting followed. I apperceive how harder this is to get the apple calm to angle up to anybody, let alone Iran.
We did that. We got them to the negotiating table. Now, of course, if the United States walks away, the blow of the apple is traveling to think, adjournment a minute. We got the best accord we could. And accustomed the constraints, I anticipate that is the case. And the sanctions would be gone in any event. The United States can accumulate arty them, but that's what we did during the Bush administration.
So that if we came in, Admiral Obama and I came in as Secretary of State, the Iranians had already baffled the nuclear ammunition aeon beneath the Bush administration. They had congenital buried facilities. They had abounding them with centrifuges. They were proceeding. So our sanctions, aggregate we did as the United States in those eight years of the two Bush agreement did not stop Iran. We now accept the opportunity, if agilely enforced, to stop them.
And to anticipate them. Now, we accept to activate to attending at what happens at the end of ten years, what happens at the end of 15 years. But this gives us time. It puts a lid on their nuclear weapons program. It allows us, frankly, David, to turn, to accord with some of their added actual adverse behavior.
Their abutment of terrorism. Their connected abutment of Hezbollah and Hamas Their arrest with the countries in the, their arena from Yemen to others. So we've got added problems with Iran. This gives us the adventitious to accumulate that lid on their nuclear weapons affairs and to about-face to body the aforementioned kinda affiliation adjoin them if it comes to their abutment for Assad and so abundant else.
DAVID MUIR: Aback actuality at home, Donald Trump. I wanna apprehend you something Jeb Bush has afresh tweeted. "Can't adjournment for this summer absoluteness TV appearance to be over."
HILLARY CLINTON: That's cute.
DAVID MUIR: But is it a absoluteness show? Or are we witnessing something absolute here?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, that's gonna be up to the Republicans and the Republican primaries to determine. You know, I'm consistently a little amused if humans get into backroom and they anticipate that all you accept to do is accord speeches and the added bright you are, the added dramatic, the added angry you are that's leadership.
Well, in fact, if you're active to be admiral of the United States, you accept to apperceive every individual day that humans all over the apple actually pay absorption to what you say. They accomplish decisions, markets acceleration and fall, armies get bigger or smaller. Things appear with absolute consequences.
And if we accept humans whose appearance of administration is the affectionate of address that gets, you know, lots of applause, gets lots of attention, afresh I anticipate we advertise ourselves short. So we accept fabricated the about-face into the post-Labor Day period. And it's traveling to be up to the Republican voters who decide, you know, who they ambition to support.
DAVID MUIR: Do you anticipate Donald Trump is just a baton of address and speeches?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, he will not acquaint you how he would do anything. You know, you try to catechism him about, "Okay, acquaint me, you wanna deport 11 or 12 actor people. How are you gonna do that?" "Well, we're, you know, we're just gonna acquaint 'em to leave and afresh they can get in band to appear back." You know, that's, that's hardly a policy.
DAVID MUIR: Something abroad he said, "That I will yield affliction of women's bloom and women's bloom issues bigger than anybody. And far bigger than Hillary Clinton who doesn't accept a clue."
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, that's just cool It's laughable, if it weren't about a austere issue. Women's bloom is actually an important affair to me, personally, as able-bodied as the plan that I've done for abounding decades. And if that's his position, I attending forward, if he is the nominee, to debating him about it.
DAVID MUIR: But privately, as you're traveling with your attack team, I mean, if you apprehend something like that what's your aboriginal reaction?
HILLARY CLINTON:There he goes again. And I've addressed that. I aloft that accurate affair if I was in New Hampshire Saturday. And at the assemblage of Women for Hillary, area Senator Shaheen accustomed me. And, you know, we just attending at anniversary other, we just shrug.
I mean, it's just added of the same. And we're gonna be captivated to a top accepted about, you know, what I would do as president. How I would do it. What behavior I would promote. What's my vision. How do I get things done? Everybody abroad should be asked the same.
DAVID MUIR: We sat down with the pope just endure anniversary and he's made--
HILLARY CLINTON: I'm jealous. I ambition I could've been there.
DAVID MUIR:It was extraordinary. Extraordinary. And he fabricated account afresh today radically transforming the action for Catholics if it comes to abatement and abatement aural the church, speaking of a added across-the-board church. Fast-tracking the process. And I'm analytical what you accomplish of this pope and some of the changes he's authoritative in the church.
HILLARY CLINTON: I am not a Catholic but I am a abundant adherent of the pope because I anticipate what he's aggravating to do is to yield this admirable institution, the Roman Catholic Church, and really, already again, abode it on a close foundation of the scriptures, of Christ's words.
One cannot apprehend the Sermon on the Mount afterwards cerebration that we all accept to be added humble. We all accept to be added affectionate and respectful. We all accept to try to do added to advice our adolescent men and women. And I anticipate that the pope is emphasizing the words of Jesus Christ. Emphasizing the top antecedence accustomed to the poor. The antecedence of caring for those who are in trouble. Whether they are on the ancillary of the alley or whether they are in prison. It's harder if you are in the apple we reside in to be as acceptable a agent of Christ's words--
DAVID MUIR: With the pa--
HILLARY CLINTON: --as we would like.
DAVID MUIR: With the accessory divide, though, in this country, is he traveling to accomplish humans feel afflictive during that collective affair with Congress? That aboriginal anytime collective meeting? He doesn't authority back.
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, I anticipate leaders of conscience, decidedly leaders of faith, who say what they accept in their affection and what they are alleged to say generally accomplish humans uncomfortable. And we charge that. We charge added of that. You know, the affectionate of mean-spiritedness that I see too abundant of in our politics, axis our backs on the poor.
Trying to anticipate humans from, you know, accepting the opportunities they charge to accept by acid programs, by authoritative academy actually unaffordable for accomplished low assets kids. There's a lot that's amiss in America. And it's not just amiss politically, it's actually amiss in our hearts.
And I achievement what the pope does is to prick the censor of everyone. I'm not talking right, left, Republican, Democrat All of us accept to do better. And if he can arouse that affection of America. You know, de Tocqueville was actually appropriate if he said, "What sets us afar in accession to the getting the longest democracy, our Constitution and so abundant else, are the habits of the affection of Americans."
He noticed that way aback in the 1830s. We've gotta be reminded of that. You know, that’s in ample admeasurement what the action over the Confederate banderole was about. Really? Do we charge a attribute of divisiveness? A action banderole that was a attribute of racism to be aerial on our accompaniment grounds? No, we don't. But there's so abundant abroad we can do bigger together. And I achievement the pope actually calls us to do that.
DAVID MUIR: And helps activation the conversation. Just a brace of ablaze questions afore you arch aback out on the attack aisle afterwards us today. I accept you're a fan of House of Cards.
HILLARY CLINTON: I am.
DAVID MUIR: I'm just analytical who you chronicle to more, Robin Wright as Aboriginal Lady or Kevin Spacey as Commander in Chief?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, honestly, neither. You know, I anticipate I apperceive abundant about our political arrangement and the acuity of the columnist that neither of them would be in that position. But it's abundant ball and I-- they're just such superb actors.
DAVID MUIR: Charlotte turns one in just a brace of weeks.
HILLARY CLINTON: She does. She does.
DAVID MUIR: I'm curious, what is she traveling to alarm you if she starts talking?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well
DAVID MUIR: Is it Grandma Clinton? Is it--
HILLARY CLINTON:I don't know, David. We're waiting. You know, she doesn't allocution yet. She makes lots of sounds. She's got a few words but I wanna adjournment to see what she does alarm me. Grandma's fine. Madame President's fine. Whatever she chooses.
DAVID MUIR: Uh-huh. She'll be talking afore then, though. Able-bodied afore then, right?
HILLARY CLINTON:Yes, she will. She will.
DAVID MUIR: She'll accept to watch the action with you. And let me, let me assuredly end the account by allurement about something you fabricated a advertence to with Joe Biden. In talking about Joe Biden, you said it takes, it takes a lot to run for president.
Americans accept watched you as Aboriginal Lady, they watched you run for Senate, they watched you run for admiral the aboriginal time. You served as Secretary of State. And now you're active for admiral a additional time. And I, I wanna apperceive in your a lot of clandestine of moments, is there anytime an instance if you ask yourself, "Why am I accomplishing this again?"
HILLARY CLINTON: Yes. Of course. Because it actually is hard. And it's, it's something that you know, just demands everything. Physically, emotionally, spiritually. It is just 24/7. And you accept to be actually present. Everybody that I accommodated I ambition to accord them my best.
So, yeah, at the end of a actual continued day you go, "Wow, this is actually hard." But afresh you do a boondocks anteroom in a abode like Newton, Iowa. And a adolescent mother stands up with her four-and-a-half-month old babyish in her arms. And she said, "You know, why is it so harder getting a mom in this country? I charge paid leave. I, I don't wanna leave my babyish too early."
I ambition added humans to accept the aforementioned opportunities. These are issues that I accept fought for my absolute developed life. I admire and adulation this country. It gave me, you know, opportunities far above annihilation my mother or my ancestor could accept had. I wanna accomplish abiding that everybody has those aforementioned opportunities. Not just our granddaughter, the granddaughter of a above president. But every individual adolescent in America can feel what I felt. You know, yeah, do we accept to do better? Do we accept problems?
I grew up in the Civil Rights era. Of advance we did. You know, we still accept a continued way to go. But no nation has anytime done added to be added inclusive, to try to affected the problems of animal attributes that we all are afflicted by. And I anticipate that our nation deserves a admiral who will be focused on allegorical us through the big problems we face. But aswell remembering, you know, what those humans accept told me all my activity about the difficulties they appointment just aggravating to accession a family. Just aggravating to accomplish it in America again. So it's harder but--
DAVID MUIR: So you do wake-up--
HILLARY CLINTON: --it's actually account it.
DAVID MUIR: --you wake-up like the blow of us every already in a while and think--
HILLARY CLINTON: Yeah, it's hard.
DAVID MUIR: --"Am I actually accomplishing this again?"
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, yeah, of course. You know, I, I never, you know, I, I was a girl. I never anticipation I would run for admiral if I was growing up. I never anticipation I'd be in political life. I never actually believed I'd run for anything. And it was a continued adventure to get me to accede to run for the Assembly the aboriginal time. And it was a adolescent woman who abiding me if she basically ashamed me by saying, you know, "You go about cogent humans to compete. Well, cartel to compete, Mrs. Clinton." So I did.
DAVID MUIR: Is, is your mother's articulation in your ear? And if so, what's--
HILLARY CLINTON: My, yeah.
DAVID MUIR: --give me the, accord me one band that you echo to yourself.
HILLARY CLINTON: You know, as, as you apparently know, my mother had a abhorrent childhood. She was alone by her parents. She was alone by her grandparents. She was actually alive as a charwoman at the age of 14. And she told me every day, "You've gotta get up and action for what you accept in no amount how harder it is."
And I anticipate about her a lot. I absence her a lot. I ambition she were actuality with me. And I bethink that. And I don't wanna just action for me. I don't, I mean, I can accept a altogether accomplished activity not getting president. I'm gonna action for all the humans like my mother who charge somebody in their corner. And they charge a baton who cares about them again. So that's what I'm gonna try to do.
DAVID MUIR: Are you accepting fun?
HILLARY CLINTON: I am. It's harder but it's fun. A lot of of the things that are harder in activity are fun. And, you know, one of my abundant admired curve from A League of Their Own if Tom Hanks, arena the torn down bashed coach, you know, confronts you know, the amateur that, you know, says, "Look, it's just so hard." And he says, "Supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, anybody could do it."
DAVID MUIR: Secretary Clinton, we accede you.
HILLARY CLINTON: Thanks, David.
DAVID MUIR: See you on the trail.
HILLARY CLINTON: Yeah, you bet.
DAVID MUIR: Accede you. Accede you.
HILLARY CLINTON: Attending avant-garde to it.
DAVID MUIR: That's excellent. Accede you.
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